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The NRL has today issued a breach notice to the Manly Sea Eagles after concluding its investigation into salary cap issues at the club.

The notice concerns preliminary findings of potential breaches of the salary cap over the last five years.

Should these preliminary findings be confirmed, proposed sanctions could include a significant fine on the club.

The club could also be required to adjust its salary cap for 2018 to recognise commitments made to players that are found to be in breach of the cap.

In addition to the matters relevant to the club, show cause notices have also been issued to two current club officials, requiring them to demonstrate why their registrations should not be cancelled.

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NRL CEO Todd Greenberg said the Manly club and both officials have already been provided with opportunities to assist the NRL during this investigation.

They will now be given a chance to respond formally to the preliminary findings before final determinations are made.

Mr Greenberg said that, in accordance with the NRL Rules, the parties have been given five days to respond to the breach notices but, given the seriousness of the allegations, the NRL would consider a request for an extension of time.

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    • Is that why Fulton left, so he doesn’t have to answer any questions?

      TPAs are supposed to be independant of the club. Organised with player managers and organisations that aren’t official sponsors. On TPAs, have the NRL looked into the Panthers after Maloney opened his mouth about the Keno one?

      • The neutrality of these corporate sponsors needs to be investigated. Do these benefactors continue to sponsor the same player once they change clubs or does their interest revolve around the same club? It is clearly just a way to bypass the salary cap and ALL clubs make use of this but it is a joke! ALL player payments need to be filtered through the NRL and recorded before being passed on to the player as a condition of their NRL contract being deemed valid. If this is not centralised but left to clubs and WORSE player managers to organise it will always be a rort.

        • The Maloney example is perfect for what you are asking. Keno had a 3rd party deal with Moylan, which then was transferred to Maloney. This screams of the club being involved in the process.

        • My point eels47 is that I think this is what happens for ALL clubs. Therefore it is NOT a genuine sponsorship but rather one setup by the clubs or their supporters, hence abusing the salary cap. Greg Inglis picked up a last minute TPA with ANZ stadium to keep him at the club. TPA’s MUST be managed and investigated by the NRL. Player managers are just sharks and should not be allowed anywhere near the process.

          The whole business nearly came apart with the Eels last year and I am sure ALL clubs are just one mistake away from discovery and complete disaster (except Souths). πŸ˜‰

  1. A BUNCH of FRIGGIN CHEATS
    Kick the silvers poon scum OUT now.
    My good mate is still awaiting those illegal TPAs he was promised and owed!

    • You don’t have mates , πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚, and if you did name them ! Just like Parker was ripped off I’m sure you can put a name other than Danielle in your posts

      • You know who it is DW Ring any bells?
        A pitiful bunch of losers!
        I am so happy you idiots got caught, you have been cheating the Cap since 1990.

        • Here it is 3 twat,
          Out to mouth and will go back under his rock until next time rusty rings for his morning latte.
          Your good mate. Well that’s a laugh, you and mates wouldn’t be in same sentence often. Your just another that opens its gob all over one article that had no proof in it at all, and if you were to say every club isn’t doing something dodge with 3rd party, well that somehow would make you dumber then you sound on here

        • Your mates with Danny πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ explains an awful lot now , you are truely in a League of your own

      • Baaaaa , your full of it , if you were confident you would name him not use his initials, besides he stuffed up when he stepped over the line , you need to do better than that danyboy

      • +1 Crowy, you’ve pretty much summed it up. As for you 3hats, stick to having coffee with your best mate Crowe.

        • 3chooks has coffee with Nick Politis now he jumped shipped to support the Roosters. Crowe won’t have him back now he has crossed over to the dark side. Since Rooster boy jumped ship the average IQ of Rabbitohs supporters has skyrocketed and Souths have already started auditioning for the next “Reggie the Rabbit”. πŸ˜‰

        • 3chooks “he jumped ship” and fell off the website altogether! Hope you land somewhere padded… and white! Bahahahahahahahahahaha

    • That won’t happen Kev , what’s up mate , sick of selling cleaning products πŸ˜‚, Aldi taken a slice of your market πŸ˜‚

      • Over 400k in dodgy TPA’s in the past five years. Systematic cheating right there.
        No wonder Bozo quit before the Manly hit the fan.
        Grubs!

        • What’s up spoon boy ? You side cheats cap and wins the spoon πŸ˜‚then is deducted points as well πŸ˜‚ no conspiracy here πŸ˜‚ maybe you could use some product and make it disappear πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ start rubbing Big boyeeee πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

        • We all know you can play the spoons MW47, we have heard you play them often enough, but can you play any other instrument? I mean the range and repertoire is somewhat limiting. As far as I am aware there has not been any music written for spoons (silver or otherwise). With the notable exception of the Parramatta Eels Theme Song! Bahahahahahahahahahahaha

        • Well , you won’t get much acoustic out of a Parra shhpoon cause it’s made of wood ( although there last 2 where plastic , that’s an NRL scandal of the future) as for the Silver spoon , it’s what Manly fans are born with πŸ˜‚ you can’t play it cause you only get 1 πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ , unless you use it on a Parra fans head then you get a hollow reverberating echooooow , bit like when you tap an empty coconut ,πŸ˜‚ it’s why Parra fans wear stack hats every time they travel to brookie for a game , and you lot though they ride push bikes πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

        • Some of my finest !πŸ˜‚ I draw my inspiration from Big Kev , that’s for you sweet heart ! Pity you can’t read it πŸ˜‚ maybe you can call a friend to read it for you , Mighty a good bloke with time for a fellow bucket head πŸ˜‚
          You could even ask E47 , he would happily translate πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ shhhhpooooon for brains πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

        • We wanted to wait until it was legal , unlike yourself and your multiple alter egos πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ better be careful I could have you imprisoned with a personal vile attack like that πŸ˜‚ ,
          You’d have little choice if they locked you up , lipstick n all

      • No you didn’t , it’s on wiki , you simply cut n paste ! Besides your roosters are the biggest cap cheats along with Brisbane

        • Up early πŸ˜‚ , at least your doing the public a service , don’t get caught eating out of the bins πŸ˜‚ your jobs to empty them πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
          You dropped something

    • As a matter of fact your tigers leagues clubs don’t an outstanding job on there latest referb πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

      • πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ salty guy, just fix your actual club mate instead of talking about junior leagues lol. Fix that cap and talk to me when you do, cheater πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

        • He can talk all he wants but at the end of the day, 5 years of salary cap breaching speaks for itself πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

        • I don’t know which is worse WTN, 5 years of cheating the salary cap or no premiership to show for it? You decide. πŸ˜‰

          Souths haven’t cheated the cap and won a premiership just 4 short years ago so it IS possible to do things fair and square. Bahahahahahahahahahaha

  2. 360 summer series, Ikin , Kent , Webster , Riccio all agree TPA’s are a scam , Webster’s even dirtier that the NSW police tipped the NRL off with Manlys TPA’s fact 5 clubs seriously rort the TPA’s the rest struggle, that’s no balanced playing field , further more NRL in that much trouble they have brought in peter Beattie to fix the mess , the sports in good hands πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

  3. Every club is rotting 3rd Party somewhere somehow. They should be abolished as here is no way to control them.
    I know panthers changed things around but Maloney mouthing off about his promised deal is a good one for just recently.
    Manly won’t loose points, so really what’s a fine to worry about…
    And well you all know what the sign at Brookie says….

    • We’re are the other Groupies ? Only find a voice when they want to have a go at me , ! See 2 members backing up there club and the groupies have gone quiet , scabs πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

    • I suppose Manly not losing points is part of the problem because as you say, a fine really isn’t a deterrent. Parra, Storm, Dogs all lost points because NRL decided to announce during the season. NRL need some sort of sliding scale of dollars v points deterrent

      • But if the amount is true of 400k over 5 years, well that is not anything like the other clubs even without the fact they were announced during a season and were found to be non compliment that actually year.
        Every year there is a list of 6/7 teams who get fines for being non cap compliant, this seems about the same.

        • And if that’s all it is (a total of $400k over a 5 year period), that’s pretty trivial, and could actually be accidental.

          I feel dirty sticking up for Manly, but if that’s the extent of it, they should get a fine and a slap on the wrist.

        • Crowy. Yeah the $400k over 5yrs is minimal and fairly standard for most clubs. What is confusing is if that’s the amount why is NRL threatening to deregister the two active Manly officials?? that sounds extreme

        • On 360 tonight Kent said they registered contracts with the NRL for less than what they were signed. If that is true then the deregistration would be fair as it is deliberate and calculated. So i don’t think it is the amount that is the biggest problem, but more the way they went about it…… allegedly

        • So now all of a sudden Paul Kent is a credible journalist whose word can be believed? It seems the eels fans opinion of Kent changes as often as Melbourne’s weather! πŸ˜‰

        • 2 things here. First, I never said anything about you using Kent as ammunition for your opinion on the Hayne deal. Second, all I have said here is what was mentioned last night, I never said he was credible. You go ahead and keep twisting things to suit your argument though. For the record, I enjoy listening to Kent on 360 as he isn’t afraid to give his opinion, whatever it is. I don’t always agree with it though. I don’t know what to make of what he said last night, all I was saying is if it was true, it is pretty serious.

        • crowy, being non-compliant is one thing, however if it is as reported, then its not simply a case of overpaying, it seems to be a blatant and deliberate way to circumvent the salary rules.
          Until all the facts are in the public domain and devoid of club/supporter bias, then we are unclear of the true nature, but should it be that the registered contracts and the “real” contracts were different, then it is along similar lines to the Storm rort – two contracts, one is registered and the other is only between the player and club.
          Where the salary cap non-compliance comes in is where there are genuine errors or differences in interpretations between the NRL and the Club which are revealed in an audit, salary cap rorts are only exposed by an aggrieved party (which is a problem in itself
          From what I understand, most non-compliance in recent times comes to miscalculations in bonuses (the club hadn’t budgeted on a player being a rep player and thus triggering performance bonuses, for example), Finals bonuses, juniors making their debuts and holding their spots when it wasn’t budgeted for and thus triggering contract upgrades.

        • Billy
          You are correct, more news has come on today and yep if manly officials have registered different amounts to what was signed by players, then yep they should be sacked and manly fines without doubt.
          The weird thing to me is, the amounts they are talking, so small amounts couldn’t of made them get extra players or really achieve anything.
          But I am standing by every club does it somehow it’s just manly, dogs,storm,eels, been caught.
          But they all do it someway somehow. Doesn’t excuse it though, that’s why 3rd party and so ridiculous

        • I wonder if this somehow stemmed from Foz’s argument with the club that they owed him money, I believe it was about 130k which the club claimed they didn’t owe him and he was going to launch legal action to recover it.
          But if it was only for the reported 400k, then it was a big risk to take….or was that the figure that the NRL were confident about and could prosecute on…
          I guess time will tell.

    • You are a knob πŸ˜‚ , just because you abuse spoons in such a disgusting way dosnt mean others will , keep your private life to yourself you grub

    • I suppose those boots don’t get the mud off them themselves…
      Why do you reference being around players or rusty all the time?? You are so insecure, you are a joke. No one cares what you think.
      And your little rants just show how young and uneducated you actually are. You need some more rusty love me thinks

  4. Came home from a long day of work to see this, bugger me. In all seriousness, TPAS need to be banished from the NRL. As said above, every club somehow rorts the cap, we were just stupid to get caught. AKA Scott Penn I’m talking about you…

  5. I get that it’s Manly so most people want to take a free kick but I think a bit of perspective is needed here:
    1. The allegations are historic.
    2. No competitions were won during the time under question.
    3. Manly are already under the cap for 2018, so no points deduction will apply.
    4. The involvement of the club in a systemic rort eg Bulldogs, Storm, is not in question.
    5. The club have already indicated they are not in agreement with the NRL breach notice.
    That being said, the whole issue of TPA’s is a joke. It only favours those with a larger corporate market eg Roosters, Brisbane. Other individuals or clubs will always be then tempted to keep pace and pray they don’t get caught. If Manly were breaching over several years as suggested, and cleared as cap compliant every year by the NRL, it shows how deficient the integrity unit is investigating the cap.
    So what’s the solution? I can’t think of anything other than centrally determined market values for players, with a minor tolerance of say 10% to allow for player preference in signing for a particular club. The NRL would have to be hands off given their interest in certain clubs like the Titans (where the NRL facilatated Hayne signing with the Eels under value because it suited their objective of selling the Titans).

    • “the whole issue of TPA’s is a joke. It only favours those with a larger corporate market eg Roosters, Brisbane.”

      Finally something we can agree on! I have been saying this for ages. tommy is right when he says it’s not the Broncos fault that the NRL is too stupid to close this loophole. As long as it exists a small number of teams will benefit at the expense of others.

      Much better to have players sign a legal contract as part of their NRL contract allowing all TPA’s to paid to the NRL, recorded and then passed on to players. TPA payments need to be regulated by the NRL and counted against the salary cap. Increase the salary cap to allow for this but set it at a level that will allow all clubs an opportunity to compete for the best players. Players caught breaking this can be fined heavily and suspended for lengthy periods. If players don’t like it then don’t sign the contract and don’t play in the NRL.

      “The NRL would have to be hands off given their interest in certain clubs like the Titans (where the NRL facilatated Hayne signing with the Eels under value because it suited their objective of selling the Titans).”

      OK, that’s 2 things we can agree on.

      An NFL/NBA players draft would solve this. Each year teams could compete to sign players who came off contract unless they can renegotiate a contract extension during this time. The same thing can happen with a junior draft and have clubs compensated financially or under the cap for losing juniors they have produced. At least it is a start towards a fairer system. The bottom line is without total transparency there will be no faith in any system that is in place.

      • SSTID, don’t get me started.

        “the NRL facilatated Hayne signing with the Eels under value”.

        Make your offer, or forever hold your peace.

        But I do agree re TPA’s.

        • The deal was done before any other club even knew that Hayne was leaving the Titans. How could any other club make an offer. The Knights have an additional $1 mill to spend under the cap and IF they had been interested the Eels could not have matched it. Either way the NRL run Titans cleared $1.25 mill off the salary and brought in Gordon for less than half the price and twice the consistency.

          I don’t wish to go through Groundhog Day again Ned so let’s just agree that when it comes to the salary cap and TPA’s in the world of professional sports the NRL are the kid on the corner with a lemonade stand. The game needs surgery to survive into the future and it is being run by clowns trying to apply band-aid solutions!

        • Hayne is garbage , he is being paid far to much to start with , furthermore the NRL should have the nuts to start fining clubs who sign players that pull out of contracts, fine the player fine the club the market value not the balance , of which in Haynes case is 50c πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

        • “The deal was done before any other club even knew that Hayne was leaving the Titans.”

          Yep, I was stunned, couldn’t believe it, out of blue, just like that, deal done.

          I’ll agree to disagree, but come on.

        • Ok Ned. Punxsutawney Phil can go back in his hole. Some of us will never change no matter how many second chances we get. πŸ˜‰

        • @ billy

          “Some of us will never change no matter how many second chances we get.”

          And that was aimed at myself ad well. πŸ˜‰

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