Storm have fight on their hands
The battle for Craig Bellamy is far from over.
Negotiations are about to be ramped up, with St George Illawarra Dragons and North Queensland Cowboys locked in a tug of war for the premiership-winning coach as the battle extends across three states.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal both the Dragons and Cowboys have joined the Melbourne Storm in making Bellamy their No. 1 target for 2014.
Bellamy is contracted to the Storm until the end of 2013 and is eager to make a call on his next coaching job before the start of the new season.
Read more at the Daily Telegraph
I’m down here at Melbourne word is that Craig is of to the dragons also the the other one is that one of the reasons benji is leaving the tigers to go the dragons is Bellamy will be his coach
I hope you are right.
With no disrespect, that’s not what I’m hearing and I’m also in Melbourne. Word is, Craig is staying for the duration of Cronk’s contract. Cam Smith will be his apprentice for 2 years and then take over as head coach. Bellamy is also tipped to go into an Admin role at the Storm, alongside Cronk when he comes off contract. I’m in Richmond and that’s hot off the press news, not rumours or gossip.
Mate that’s old news about benji dragons will be making an announcement this week on benji I’m going to be glad to see him go take moltzen with u
How do you know that about benji to the dragons???
@Tiger
I would be extremely surprised if the Dragons or any other club will sign Tim Moltzen after last years drama.
Panther I agree moltzen is s. t why did we fight so hard 4 him
I’ve got no idea. The only reason I could think of is to keep Benji happy.
dragons trying to buy yet another premiership, hilarious.
Hey Rabbit, now tell me all of the big name players that Saints have signed over the last 30 years? If you fail to do so then you have Zero credibility.
mark gaznier,
darius boyd!
jeremy smith!
Gaz came back home and didn’t want to go anywhere else. Boyde was not a big name signing when we signed him and he was unwanted by Brisbane. Smith was mainly comming off the bench for Melbourne, yeh we did sign him for big money, but I still didn’t consider him a big name signing when we signed him.
Roger, you are 100 percent right… We are trying to buy a premiership through the purchase of a great coach, the same as the the dogs did with hasler and the knights did with bennet, and the panthers with cleary…. It’s called the NRL and these guys don’t work for free…!!
Why try and buy a premiership? Souths proved this year that no amount of money was going to win them one. A coach either has the perfect playing roster or they don’t. Craig Bellamy failed as NSW Blues coach and why? Because he didn’t have the cattle needed on the paddock. Slater, Smith and Cronk make his job easy.
Have a look at the Knights. They got Bennett, really believed they would go close to the big one this year and it didn’t work out that way. The players have made him look pretty darn ordinary. People need to understand that it’s not about the coach, it’s about the playing roster but most importantly, the admin dept because if that’s not functioning properly, the players and coaching staff feel the full brunt of it.
From what I’m hearing, and I’m here in Brisbane, Bellamy is remaining at the Storm until the end of 2016 when both he and Cronk will call it quits together. We may not know much up here but when it comes to this sort of thing, we know more about what’s going on than most think. We knew about Cronk’s new contract before his press conference and this Bellamy issue is no different.
Roger, you have disgraced yourself…if we had the time to have an ongoing discussion about bringing juniors through as opposed to buying a premiership, the only hilarious thing would be your naivety!
A friend of mine knows one of the the 3rd party paying benji. Benjis manager gave them a dead line for money owing to him it wasn’t meet buy the tigers .he signed just before he went into camp
Hey roger when we won the comp in 2010 can you please tell me how we bought it we got players no one wanted
Roger you’re an idiot simple as that. Bronco’s didn’t want Boyd, we threw Costigan a lifeline and Smith left the Storm because of the Salary cap and just about all the rest are St George or Illawarra juniors. Gee i cannot stand Tossers like yourself.
C’mon saints make this happen give the great man what he wants and let’s be done with it..
Mate we have been linked to everyone we will get no one due to the inept board and CEO we have
isnt it amazing how all these people get on here and say how they know for sure that jennings or marshall has signed with the dragons yet there is never any official statement from the dragons
@West coast dragon
Nor the other respective clubs either.
West coast totally agree mate still waiting for the pearce anouncement “within” the week somebody inthe “know” posted recently ,i heard sbw reynolds scott benji cronk are all comming to dragons hahaha
I also heard that we are chasing delpero .why not we apparently have signed everyone else
My fellow dragons fans, I can tell you right now we are talking to Jennings and Bellamy and that info is from within, do I think we’ll get them not as a our track record isn’t the best.. I’m not one to start crap rumors but do enjoy some inside info as was told to me before the roosters signed their coach that Bellamy won’t up and go to the warriors and that the chooks had baulked at his asking price, on my info it was between the dragons and the storm for his signature..! Anyway it’s going to be very painfull watching the dragons in the years to come without a proven coach..
Agro the dragon I would love to get Bellamy but please we are no chance why would he leave with 3 of the best players to come to bunch of haks
Red v, Maybe the challenge – the very quiet and relaxing south coast – the money he would get – he would be able to test himself without the big 3 – all I know red v is he would be the perfect fit in the RED V..!
Now why would Jennings walk out of a 650k a year deal with 3 years still left on it??? I highly doubt Cleary will let jennings go who pretty much put a hand in all the wins that had towards the end of the season.
Penrith wanted to let go of Jennings to buy Thurston but Coote is our 5/8 now and looks to be there fo good.
Sorry to burst your bubble Mr no it all.Y You can have Bellemy but with all the old legs running around still in Feind and Cooper use wont be doing anything with Bellemy there.
i dont think it is so much as a Michael wanting or not wanting to walk out on a contract in the 600K figure – its quite public knowledge that Cleary / Jennings have had some clashes this year (PARK FOOTBALL
), most of which were disciplineray off field issues from Michaels side…. He’s 2 notches away from where Tod Carney was last year.
It was all Elliots fault. He made so many backended deals. Elliot also made the club a players club. SO all players had a say. Cleary has made it a coachs club and thats the coach has the say.
Cleary just doesnt want him playing poorly for 600k.
He was one of the best players for Penrith when he did play. Probaly won them 3 games by himself.
His probably worth 500k but how much is Blair on. Inglas just signed for 1 million or more a year. Jennings is near half that LOL
Jennings fan, No I don’t know it all but I’m not as numb as you to think Jennings is happy or even staying at penrith wake up to yourself the only reason we don’t have him is because his manager originally blocked the deal..!
Can someone explain why the dragons would want jennings?
Southcoast Dragon cause we need a good centre and my point of view is if you are good enough to play for NSW then you are good enough to play for the Dragons. Some will agree and some won’t. Hey Red V if we get Benji, Jennings and then Bellamy maybe Widdop will follow don’t worry about the big 3 mate. Bellamy is a top coach make sure we get him Mr Doust for 5 years please not 3
C’mon dragons I would love nothing more to get Bellamy I have been a dragons supporter for 28 years and mate those 3 years we had Bennett we were awsome now we have some goose.
Let’s sign Mose also while where going strong. Surely we have the coin to spend.
You saints supporters are ddddrrrrreeeeeaaaaammmmmmmeeeeeerrrrrrssssss as if Craig will come to your has been club my god you guys are delusional
thats what the last bloke said when we started having a chat with a coach called “wayne”…. i was one of the doubters back then too.
why would the cowboys want bellamy? neil henry’s been going so well
Would rather JMoz before Jenning. Hope the Bellamy and Marshall thing is true!!
Yeh I would rather Josh Morris over Jennings too.
Hey least Penrith threw money and a long term deal to keep Jennings unlike the Dragons who let him go to the dogs. Should have thrown cash at him to stay not overs for players
LOL. You have payed massive overs to keep Jennings and on a long term contract. He will apparently be on 700K a year next year at Penrith.
Yes we should have kept Josh Morris, I would have if I was our coach. Bennett didn’t rate the Morris Brothers. When he got to Saints Brett started the year in NSW cup or whatever it was called back then. If Bennett wanted to keep Josh, I believe that we would have kept him. Yes I know that we had Gasnier and Coops there at the time he signed with Can’terbury and then Gasnier didn’t get payed his 3rd party payments and left for France Union the next year.
Wonder how much old Gaz and Cooper were/are on. Cooper probably 500k Soward 500k??? Cant see were all your moneys gone. Feind Wayman Nightingale aint worth that much surely. Yet clubs like dogs and rabbits have much stronger teams yet stay under the cap.
Where is your money going???????
Totally agree with both of you.
Who not me obviously. Dragons and Roosters both dont know where all their money goes.
Yeh I have been asking the same questions about where our money has gone and how we are on our cap. Zero Tackle has Jamie Coward on 300K a year, I think, but I would not have him in our side what so ever, even if he played for nothing. Coops should not be on anything more than 300K in my opinion. I would not be paying Fien more than 200K, he is only a fill in half or 5/8 in my opinion, exept we don’t have any good halves exept for Kyle who has hardly played a game there.
I agree about Souths and Can’terbury and other clubs having much better rosters than us, so the likes of Doust and Young are the ones who should be answering those questions. I even heard that we signed Beale for 300K a season. I would not have signed him for 200K, I would not have signed him at all either, just another fill in player at best. Nightingale is a top winger, but is still only a winger and I could not see him on any more than 270K a year.
A mate told me that when Lockyer was at Brisbane his contract with Brisbane was 300K a season and then he was on 700K a season from 3rd party payments.
i dont think the money has gone anywhere – thats the problem… Stg dont recruit so well and if you look at the history of how Bennet was recruited they held money from under the cap as it is well known the pay cuts Hornby Coop’s and young took amongst others. The cap is the cap, but it still runs in under a clubs budget and pinching penies to pay Paul (maybe Bellamy) has been done before my friend…
Would rather JMoz before Jennings. Hope the Bellamy and Marshall thing is true!
Would rather JMoz before Jennings. Hope the Bellamy and Marshall thing is true
That was about J Morris before Jennings I was commenting on.
Ummm Jennings had Travis Burns giving him bad ball all year. Coote moved into 5/8 and Jennings was scoring and setting up tries hence the reason they won 4 out of 6 at the end of the season.
Look up the stats and you will see Penrith scored almost all their tries down Jennings side of the feild.
Hey guys just ran into cooper at his shop I put him on the spot about Bellamy his answer was to me mate I don’t know but from what I heard around the club he is coming
awwwwwwww yay hahah looks like coops will re sign for another season or so if thats the case ! .. yeeeessssss i believe it will happen because warriors left the circle, roosters left the circle, tigers left the circle and cowboys will not chase hard they have a good coach so if they throw an offer and get declined they wont bother increasing it. Dragons on the other hand have a BIG BIG decision, to sign a great coach and move our club forward or to use a rookie coach and get nowere .. so our offer will increase basicly till there is not a cent left to offer ! .. Doust even went to todd greenburg for advise, it shows that the dragons are trying hard and will do whatever it takes ! cos they know if they let this slip its going to be a big dark hole for the next 2 – 5 years, players will not want to come to a club which is coached by a rookie coach. there for sh*t recruitment, and same same thing for the next years, so dragons push harder for the fight and make sure the offer is bigger than melbourne !
True rumour – They are giving Steve Price until round 8. If results go against him, Steve Folks will be coach until the end of 2013. Steve Bellamy will announce his future with the Red V this year.
Who the hells Steve Bellamy??? Craig Bellamy is staying at the Storm. He’s readying to sign a three year contract which will see him and Cronk finish at the same time.
Gauci is remaining tight lipped because of the fuss over Cronks contract which I tried to tell everyone but no one would listen to me, what would I know? Just because I live around the corner from Cronks family means jack sh*t, apparently.
Cameron Smith will remain in Melbourne and take over from Bellamy but he’ll be his assistant coach for two years after he comes off contract in 2014.
I remember reading 1 of your comments in a Sydney paper. It was when you talked about Cronks contract and everyone gave you heaps over it. You were spot on then so I’m not about to argue with ya buddy. Amen to someone in here talking sense for a change. Besides, News Ltd aren’t about to let Bellamy walk away. They’ll make sure they can match any offer from a rival club and even better it.
Just wanna say something else about Bellamy. Do all of you think he’s got a short memory? He remembers how you all called him and the whole team cheats but yet you’d be happy to have a CHEAT at your club? Wake up to yourselves and stop being bloody hypocrites!!!
Firstly, it’s Craig Bellamy, not Steve Bellamy.
Secondly, it’s not a true rumour. I’m sick of supporters of our great club talking BS! Cop it sweet for once. We couldn’t get Cooper Cronk yet we offered him more than any other club. If we were a chocolate cake, we couldn’t attract a fly! Craig Bellamy’s going to announce his future but it won’t be with us. Do you really think he’d want to come here when he has nothing to work with and we don’t have the coin the shell out for bigger and better players? Wake up to yourself. I’ve read forums where some Dragons supporters are wanting Bennett to come home? This isn’t his home! Brisbane is! Get it right or just zip it.
Do us a favour mate, keep the bullsh%t rumours to yourself instead of looking like a dickhead. I’ve been a Dragons supporter since the days of black and white tv and the fact is, Bellamy isn’t coming to the Dragons. He’s no chance of leaving the Storm. Yes theres been a lot of talk about him but thats just typical of the media. The footy season is over so they need something to write about to keep their jobs. I for one don’t want him as coach for the very reasons that have been pointed out in here. He is average and just like any other coach, he’s only as good as the players around him. It was them that made him what he is, not his coaching ability. The worlds best 3 would make any coach look great. Talent like that comes naturally and doesn’t come along every day.
If anything, our club needs a shake up at top level. Get rid of Doust and some of the board and we just might go places and we may even be lucky enough to get some decent players and attract a decent coach.
How certain are u we got craig or did u get it from a mate that has a friend his brother works at a brothel who the chicks mother bangs the coaching staff
LMAO @ V u r spot on……… All these rumours are just f&*%ing bullshit, everyone just wants to sound like they are important and think they know everything about the Dragons….stop ya bullshit u know f%$& all!! I will tell you whats happening, us Dragon supporters are in for another tough year, dud recruits, a under 9′s footy coach and a filfhy rich pig of a CEO who thinks hes done more than enough by bringing in Bennett, winning 2 minor premierships, a premiership and world club challenge, and now is waiting for his retirement package. Get real and face the facts, there will NO Bellamy, NO Benji, NO Jennings etc etc!! I hope im wrong though….bahahahahahaha Cmonnn u mighty Saints
You sure you’re not a Bulldogs supporter? You’re one very sick puppy! The V doesn’t represent V as in St George Red V, it stands for Vile!
that is where all the rumors on this site come from, i thought? i will be very suprised if bellamy (happy tho) or jennings(over rated) or benjie (lol right…) come to the dragons.
You Dragons supporters are worse than the Rabbitohs. Fair dinkum, do you really believe Bellamy would get you a premiership? He’s only been successful with the Storm because of the blokes he has, Q’landers! The worlds best 3 would make any coaches job easy! Take them out of the team and he’s a pretty ordinary coach and that’s been proven when he didn’t have them due to origin duties. I don’t want to offend any Storm supporters because I think they’re an awesome team but geez, if it wasn’t for their halfback, fullback and hooker, Bellamy wouldn’t have the success he’s had.
Anyway, word is, he’s staying with the Storm with a lucrative deal waiting when he’s done coaching. And no, I didn’t hear it from Joe Blow off the street, some of the “better” known AFL players already know what he’s doing. And for the record, Corvo has signed a new 3yr deal with the Storm and who does he work with? Bellamy. If Bellamy was leaving, Corvo wouldn’t have signed a new contract.
I hope that puts a few things into perspective with some of you. It beats the heck out of rants and rumours.
sounds like your still peddling rumours from your comments like better known afl players please?if thats not a rumour then what is?
Still peddling rumours huh? Wait and see is all I can say to you.
I remember you Dragons supporters getting all excited saying you had Cooper Cronks signature and look at what happened, you ended up with egg all over your faces and let me tell you, it was more laughable than Doust ringing the Storm and asking about where he can get premiership t-shirts made! From memory, you choked that year so suck it up sunshine!
Read your own post dickhead your the one who wrote it and its full of shit don’t think the door is closed on bellamy going elsewhere otherwise he’d commit to the storm now especially after a flag when everyone’s still high on euphoria he’s looking don’t you worry about that so go have a couple of drinks and blow your afl buddies
So I’m full of sh*t? Wait and see. Give me your PO Box so I can send a paint scraper to you to get the egg off your face!
You’re one very spiteful person and that reflects in the way you write. Bellamy is playing the same game Cronk played. Your club and it’s supporters had Cronk on a 3 year contract, signature and all. Cronk turned his back on the biggest offer made to him and signed with the Storm! It’s no secret the Dragons supporters are spiteful but you’re giving the club a reputation it doesn’t deserve. Pull your head in Shorty and move on. Your not getting Bellamy and you never will.
You can’t see what’s going on here can you West coast Dragon? Bellamy’s manager is doing the exact same thing as Cronk’s manager did. Put him out there to see what he’s worth, play the field so to speak. It’s part and parcel of a managers job, he needs to ensure he’s getting top dollar for his client.
Remember the drama around Cooper Cronk? He visited 5 different clubs but admitted he had no intention of leaving the Storm regardless of how much money was on offer from rival clubs. It’s called…testing a persons value. St George Illawarra Dragons offered Cronk a significantly higher amount than any other club but he wasn’t interested in parting way’s with Slater, Smith or Bellamy. Telling someone in here they are full of it is the wrong approach. From what I’ve read, I’m guessing this person knows more than they’re letting on so just leave it at that.
In my honest opinion, Bellamy is staying with the Storm because he knows what he’s got but he doesn’t know what he’s getting if he leaves. He’ll sign another 3yr contract with them and then give it away.
LOL @ St Merged Dragons supporters. Keep on talking it up people, the more you talk it up the bigger fools you will look when Bellamy accepts the Storms offer in the next few days
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To Jason. AMEN! Craig spends a lot of time with the AFL coaches, players and CEO’s and I’m happy to confirm what you’ve said. Sydney clubs are no chance of getting him. If he was to leave the Storm, and that’s a big IF, he’d be joining the Cowboys because he has a good crop to work with. Dragons haven’t got the talent like the Storm. Smith Slater and Coops have made Bellamy the great coach he is. Take just 2 of those players out of the equation and like someone has already said, he’s a pretty ordinary coach and proven when he coached the Blues origin squad.
Last word on this subject. It was Bellamy himself who said and I quote, I can’t coach against these blokes, they are like my own kids. I’ll quote Cameron Smith as well from a radio program last week, Craig’s not going anywhere, time for everyone to cut the vicious rumours. Tell you lot anything yet? Read between the bloody lines!
He buddy read my posts I’m a dragons fan and not once have I bought into the crap read my posts goose
I was referring to your vulga comments. They don’t belong in a forum like this. This is sport, not a porn website!
I should be sitting on the fence here because I don’t support either team but I’m buying in on this. Bellyache isn’t leaving the Storm any time soon and he couldn’t have made that clearer than he did a few weeks before the semi finals. It’s got me beat why some of you Dragons supporters would even want him. Your supporters were among the many who called him a cheat, liar etc but you’re happy to want the man as your coach? This is hypocracy at it’s very best. Shame on you all for calling yourselves true supporters of the game.
Yeah well their all enemies until their with us!
You really are a hypocrite! Not to mention, a disgrace to the game! Bellamy isn’t leaving the Storm. What will it take for you lot to get that into your thick heads? How many more times does he have to say…I can’t see myself ever coaching against these blokes I’ve got here. He and Cronk had a verbal agreement which was well documented back in April. The pair of them will finish at the Storm and at the same time, 2016. Bellamy is set to move into Administration at the Storm.
You idiot!
This is exactly what Chloe was referring too…the name calling. You seriously need to grow up or go back to reading comics. Yep, I called you a hypocrite because that is exactly what you are. Supporters of other clubs all hate the Storm and Bellamy because of the rorting. They were branded, cheats, grubs and liars yet you want Bellamy to coach your useless bloody team? If that isn’t being a hypocrite then please tell me what is?
Accept the fact that Bellamy isn’t go to your club. Cronk wouldn’t go there for more money than was on offer from other clubs, including Melbourne, so why would his coach?
Chloe, you are right. West coast Dragon did start the name calling and it’s very immature behaviour or, it’s a kid writing it.
Why all the hype around a bloke who couldn’t coach the NSW team to victory against the bloody canetoads! FFS, if it wasn’t for the “big 3″ Bellamy would be a no one, no club would want him. Seriously, you people need to build a bridge. The only thing I agree with is, he’s staying at Melbourne.
I agree! I remember his interview after the origin series and he said, how do you coach against Slater, Cronk and Smith? Then he shrugged his shoulders and said, its almost impossible, their simply brilliant, they beat me at my own game. Bellamy struggled when he was dropped as Blues coach and he had to field a side at the Storm without his key players. Storm did find it hard without them, unlike the master Bennett. He could still coach the Broncos to a win without his origin stars. I guess the old coots got one up on Bellamy in that dept. The only thing I really want to say to some of you is, do you really want a CHEAT at your club? I know I wouldn’t.
Hey V. How about you stick to talking about footy instead of what you might have watched on SBS or some other smutty channel. As for Bellamy, I thought it was common knowledge that he was staying with the Storm. He and Ponissi aren’t in Europe on some holiday. The pair of them are over there scouting talent and ideas from European sporting codes to bring back to the Storm. If he had any intention of leaving, he wouldn’t give a toss about the club and look for better ways and ideas.
Sorry didn’t know you are a priest forgive me cos I have sined
Hey v looks like we riled a few up here!
How can you say Bellamy is an ordinary coach when hes the one that created the “Big 3″. Not only that but every player thats coached by him seem to get better. Look at all the youngsters hes turned into rep players. Greg Inglis, Ryan Hoffman, Israel Folau, Adam Blair, Jessie Bromwich, Kevin Proctor, Garreth Widdop, Jeremy Smith, Dallas Johnson, Sika Manu and the list goes on. He gets the best out of every player he coaches which is why he is no ordinary coach.
You can’t create that kind of talent. Bloody Queenslanders are brilliant. They live, eat, sleep and breath footy. If he got the best out of players, please tell me why he couldn’t get NSW to an origin win when he got the side he wanted!!! Without the likes of Cronk, Smith and Slater, Bellamy wouldn’t be where he is today. He was an average player and an average assistant to Wayne Bennett. If he’d been a great assistant, Bennett would have taken him with him in his travels and wouldn’t have wanted him to leave the Broncos. On a lighter note, he’ll stay at the Storm but not as coach. From memory, he did indicate he may not sign another contract as a coach. He said he’d love to venture into a consultancy role and ease the pressure.
Just announced Craig has agreed to a 3 year deal at storm just heard it 7.30 news
Checked everywhere but could not find . You serious ??
Was on 730 news on am radio it will probably filter threw soon
Gee it is taking a long time to filter throught o the mainstream media. AM must really get the early mail.
Yeah I heard that to on the am
Just said it on news break Bellamy agreed to a 3 year deal
The fact you guys still listen to am says a lot!
Oh my god! I almost feel too ashamed to admit I’m a Dragons supporter after reading some of the comments coming from “so called” Dragons supporters! What’s with the name calling, smutty remarks and childish behaviour? That is not what this club is about. We are about pride and dignity but none of that is on display in here!
I don’t really care who the coach will be but I hope it’s not Craig Bellamy. I pinned high hopes on him during the SOO series only to be let down! He had the pick of the crop and he didn’t deliver! He chose his coaching assistants and other staff and we won nothing! We were disgraced by the Maroons! He’ll stay in Melbourne because he is loyal to his club, in particular, the players who have delivered him a premiership that was LEGAL!
What our club needs is a clean out, starting at the top and then work down to the playing roster. Until we do something along those lines, we will be nothing and we will attract no one of influence and expertise.
Loyal Dragons supporter since 1971 but have to say the Doust era has been mostly a debacle. We have one shining light in Bennet and even then Doust stuffed the opportunity to get him for 4 years. Doust has allowed us to become the Knights feeder club, has consistently failed to attract outside talent, has consistently let our brightest and best juniors leave. It’s been terrible since Johnston stepped down for health reasons.
Next year looks like we will struggle even more now we’ve let another good forward go. We couldn’t even get Smith back after let him and Costigan go, in disgraceful circumstances by offering insulting offers to make way for Gasnier.
Only good news is Weyman will be back. But we have no halfback with Stanley injured. We don’t have a fullback, no disrespect to Nightingale who I like very much, but he can’t compete with the 4-5 other great fullbacks in the comp. Cooper went from sensational 2011 to woeful 2012 as did Soward. Have to really wonder how much was Price’s fault for failing to inspire the players. Just like Nathan Brown did not have the respect of the senior players, Saints forgot everything they learned under Bennet and went back yto their old undisciplined fumbling, bumbling panicked ways. Stupid penalties, poor passing game, slow as molasses half-back. Morris, Rein and Merrin were only standouts.
I think Saints should have used Folkes as coach with Price assistant. Folkes had several great years at dogs.
Can’t really see how things will improve with the current roster.
BTW why did Saints buy Denan Kemp and what ever became of him and will Gerard Beale actually get a run and at what position? We have a ton of wingers and I’ve never seen him play elsewhere.
Denan kemp was a victim of Steve prices lack of vision and tactical nouse,you only have to see from his time at Brisbane how good here is and during a season when we clearly lacked speed price was totally reluctant to even experiment when he had the opportunity so mkemp sat around taking a salary when he should of had a run at least to test the waters but alas no same side week in week out same excuses week in week out the sooner everyone from fans to board realise that he’s not worthy to coach the dragons the quicker we can move on !
Kyle isn’t a halfback. He is an out and out 5/8. We have to get rid of Coward and put Kyle 5/8 with a real halfback.
Cloe sorry love but you are clueless!
Chloe we,re just responding to same.it is a forum after all not everyones going to agree.
Sorry, I call it as I see it and I see you started the name calling. It’s not going to resolve a thing, it simply belittle’s youself. Please don’t call me clueless, you’re beginning to sound like Tony Abbott! If I am clueless, then so must the majority of people in here saying the same thing! We don’t need Craig Bellamy. He is not the answer to our problems!
Nice to see a woman stand up for herself Chloe, well done girl.
West coast Dragon comes across as being somewhat of a bully. He did start the “name calling” and even had the hide to tell someone they are lying. West coast Dragon, prove they are lying before making a wild accusation, it’s called defamation.
You may also want to tell me I’m lying about my brother knowing a few of the Hawks players and guess what? They know what Bellamy’s plans are ie, they know he’s not leaving the Storm. The Storm, in particular Bellamy, has a very close relationship with the Hawks so, if anyone knows of his plans, they do. Find the number for Mick Malthouse and he’ll tell you the same thing, Bellamy is going nowhere. He and Frank Ponissi are over in Europe at present on a mission, it’s to learn the ways of European success from both Rugby and Soccer clubs. I’m referring to the runnings of a club. Put 2 & 2 together, it’s really simple if you try.
For the record, I’m not a Storm supporter. I follow Rugby Union but there is quite a lot of talk down here about Craig Bellamy so I thought I’d come in here and have some input.
I’ve read all the comments and the one’s that make sense are the one’s that say, Bellamy isn’t leaving. He has worked his fingers to the bone at the Storm and he’s not going to walk away until Cameron Smith hangs up his boots and moves into the assistant coaching role with the Storm.
News Ltd and Bellamy’s manager are playing a game of cat and mouse. Of course they have to make it look like he’s on the hunt for a new challenge. If they didn’t do that, he wouldn’t get his true worth.
Go back to watching union then!
@Chloe. Bellamy or Hasler and Thurston would be the best thing that could happen to Saints, along with getting rid of Jamie Coward and the 3 stooges in Doust, Craig Young and The Price is not right.
Chloe what specifically do you think would be the answer to our problems? Please share with us your wisdom.
Well put Daffy. Beale can play fullback & centre also . He’s a decent signing just need lots more
If Beale plays fullback for us he will be one of the worst fullbacks in the comp. I think he is a dud buy and a complete waste of money. He would not be in my starting side in any position.
So he’s good enough for NZ test team but he’s rubbish? I haven’t seen enough of him to say if I rate him, but he’s been ok for the Broncs the few times I’ve watched him. But I agree he’s not the answer to us not having a fullback and we are oversupplied for wingers.
Yeh I have watched Beale a lot this year after we signed him. He has failed to impress me at all. Brisbane had Hoffman playing fullback all year and he would not be in the top 10 fullback in the comp, but they obviously rate Hoffman higher than no big Beale. He is too small for the centers too. He is basically a Brisbane reject. We will see next year if I am right about him or not.
West coast Dragon, you have a huge chip on your shoulder. How about you get rid of it and stop calling people names!!!. I’ve read the bloody comments and that’s what you seem to do best and you did start it so how about you leave the women alone. I thought the school holidays ended a few weeks ago!
Why would you want Bellamy at the Dragons? Do you honestly believe he can work with rubbish? Origin blew up in his face and he was permitted to pick the team he wanted along with his assistants and more assistants and more assistants!. Hell, he even got to pick the medical team and we still didn’t win a series!
Get it into your head, Bellamy has the players around him to make his job p*ss easy. If it wasn’t for them, he’d be a no one! Bennett’s a perfect example of it. He thought he could go to the Knights and turn them around. It can’t happen unless he’s got the men to do the job. Dragons were cruising along until Jeremy Smith left, he moved on to the Sharks and he got them from the sh*thouse to the penthouse. Its about the players, not the damn coach!
Bellamy to see it out at the Storm for 2-3 years and then perhaps leave the club or as has been suggested, move into administration.
Chloe do yourself a favour and ignore West coast Dragon. This person is the reason most of us Dragons supporters have a bad reputation. He isn’t making any valid points because he doesn’t have the capacity to do it. He’s the kind of person you don’t want to sit at a game with because you know his mouth will get you into trouble.
You’re right about our club. We need a huge overhaul at the top level. How embarrassing was it when Peter Doust called the Melbourne Storm and enquired about the cost of t-shirts? Absolute public humiliation is what it was. We were very soon the laughing stock of the league and who can blame anyone for laughing at us? We didn’t make it that year and when Doust was asked about it, he refused to answer calls. He’s doing the same thing now in regards to Bellamy. He’s saying nothing because he knows we’re not a cashed up club.
We used to be a bit like Souths, the pride of the league. Unfortunately, those days are long gone. We had a bit of luck with Bennett as coach but that was short lived due to players leaving. As the old saying goes, a coach is only as good as the players he has and we simply don’t have the players anymore. Our pride and integrity are almost non existant and we don’t need supporters who are going to give us a bad reputation. Wait for it, I’ll either be called a goose, idiot or perhaps even a dickhead but thats because this person has limited vocab and that is very clear to most I’m sure.
Nicely put Neil. Some people just aren’t worth the trouble or effort, a waste of energy if you get where I’m coming from. I’ve been a Dragons supporter and member for many years and never have I seen our club deteriorate like it is now.
I won’t be a hypocrite and want Bellamy at the club. I don’t like his wrestling in the tackles techniques. I don’t give 2 hoots about who has wrestling coaches and who hasn’t. All I know is, I don’t want his grubby techniques used at our club. Melbourne can have him because I’m damn sure I don’t want him. If we sign him, I will not renew my membership. I’d rather walk away from the game than be branded GRUBS.
The main advantages to getting Bellamy (let’s ignore his tactics) are he’ll attract good players and he’ll instil discipline and seems to get the best from neville nobody’s, at least at Melbourne.
Even if Price improves a 500%, he’s still a nobody and good players won’t be interested.
Saints have a very poor history of recruiting stars going back to the 70′s. You can count on 1 hand the number of top flight players they have attracted. Steve Rogers was biggest signing and he was at the end of his career and spent two seasons mostly injured. Michael O’Connor was still finding his feet when we got him only to let him go when he was a superstar. Usually we bring superstars through the juniors and them let them go. I reckon I’ll be a retirement village eating baby food the next time we win a GF. 40 years of history shows we have poor track record in coaches and player recruitment and the current board don’t seem to get it.
There’s only 1 problem with your ideas. Bellamy can’t attract the players without our club having the coin to pay them. We’re not flush with money and the new tv deal won’t matter, we have debts to pay and they are huge. Usually when a coach leaves a club and goes to another, they take with them all their current coaching staff plus talent scouts. Storm have locked all of Bellamy’s helpers into long term contracts with the exception of Kidwell. Bellamy can’t do it without them, he’s worked alongside them for too long. It was disappointing not to get Cronk considering how much we offered him which was considerably more than the rival clubs chasing him. Get rid of Doust and we might have a change of fortune. He is the main problem at the club and until he goes, we’ll continue to have problems.
@Mick, We should have offered Cronk 800K and we would have got him. We then could have built a team around him, Kyle and Rein.
We were never going to get Cronk. When the rumours first started about his playing future, he said, I would like to go back home and unfortunately, home is QLD which is why he started his negotiations with the Titans. He stayed at the Storm because his future at the Titans was uncertain and he didn’t really want to play against his mates. We could have offered him $1m a season and he still wouldn’t have come to the club.
Chloe is right, we need to pee off Doust if we are any hope at all of attracting the big guns in the game. I still reckon he’s the reason behind Bennett leaving. Anyway, time to move forward and pray we have a better year next year.
I tend to agree with Mick. Cronk had no intentions of playing for a Sydney based club. He said that he wanted to go home to Canetoad land but if he couldn’t, his preference was to stay with the Storm. I am almost jealous of that club regardless of what the previous board did. They were forced to shed players and bring young lads through the ranks and they still perform but take Slater, Smith and Cronk out of the team and no way could Bellamy get them to a premiership. I think a few have already said that Bellamy couldn’t get them to a win during the Origin series, that’s because he didn’t have the big three.
It would be great to have someone like Thurston at the Dragons but he doesn’t have the players around him to help and we don’t have the cash flow to build around him. We’re pretty much screwed.
@Daffy. I agree with everything you said in that last post.
I knew there were benefits to moving from Sydney to Brisbane. Being a Dragons supporter, and there’s heaps of us up here, you’ll be disappointed to know that Bellamy is not coming to our team, he’s staying put in Melbourne. Words on the streets up here big time! Apparently, word got out from someone associated with the Storm. It’s spreading like wildfire up here and some of the radio stations are trying to find out whats going on. Announcement expected very soon is what the word is.
Hey West coast Dragon. How about you pull your head in and stop bashing on the ladies in here? You’ve obviously got nothing better to do and your comments go beyond derogatory. You’re a pretty spiteful kind of person buddy. Either put something in here that’s worthy of reading or take a bloody hike. Us Dragons supporters don’t want or need people like you, you’re nothing but a trouble maker.
I’m hearing the same as most about Bellamy staying at the Storm. He won’t leave there, he basically built that club up from the ashes and he’ll see it out.
Nice work. It’s about time someone told him to pull his head in. Talk about a ranter! Full of arrogance and very little else. Not worthy of being a participant in any forum, especially this one. Ignore him Chloe and Jasmine, the more you fire back at him, the more happy he feels, he gets off on it and that goes without saying. Read his comments and you’ll see what I mean.
And Lucas, you’re pretty spot on with what you’ve heard. I can’t and won’t say too much more than that.
Lucas I’m not bashing on the ladies so don’t make me out that way I’m participating in a forum like everyone else and my replies aren’t directed a them due to their gender and no I dont have a chip on my shoulder but I do take exception to people who say that everyone should stop with the rumours when the say they’ve got inside info from afl players to Chloe and jasmine I apologise if you are offended by my comments but they are not directed at you because of your gender but as forum participant no spitebut just geeing people up and some people shouldn’t be so precious or righteous to cast dispersions on me without knowing me no chips no spite.do i think Bellamy will come to the dragons no but I don’t think he’s not at least looking and talking to people otherwise he’d say so now,but please don’t be agro when other people even suggest it and choose to participate in forums about it for a bit of fun and that’s not me but also the other supporters who have quoted on this matter.thank you guys and ladies.
I think the ladies would accept that apology. You need to understand 1 simple thing, lifes not about what you know, it’s about who you know and some of us are fortunate enough to know some people who are well informed and in the loop. What has been said in here about Craig Bellamy is spot on the money. Sometimes word travels fast, particularly when some of us live in QLD and this is where a lot of the Storm players come from and they have family living pretty close by. I’ve said things in some papers that I shouldn’t have said but all of them were fact otherwise I wouldn’t have said any of it. I’m not saying another word about Bellamy, I’ve said enough already.
I’ve read every single comment and it took me a while but I got through them. A lot of people seem to be forgetting this is sport. Sport is exactly that. You can’t win all the time and you can’t win the premiership, flag or grand prize every year. It’s about patience, perseverance and being persistant. Chopping and changing players and coaches isn’t the answer. It’s about working with what you’ve got and as long as a team gives 100% every week, everyone should be satisfied. Just imagine how kids would feel if their parents said to them, that wasn’t good enough, we expected more from you, the game was rubbish, kids wouldn’t want to play any sport because they wouldn’t feel adequate. Bellamy is where he is today because of patience but he also has the best 3 players in the world at his disposal. He was a deadset flop when he coached the NSW team. He proved then that without key players and the “big 3″, he simply couldn’t do the job. Talent is a natural thing, a coach can use it to their advantage but when the talent isn’t there anymore, the coach looks like a fool. We’ve seen it time and time again. Bellamy lost games at the Storm without his key players. That was enough to prove to many people that without them, he is as some have said, ordinary. Same thing happened to Bennett. He’s looking more and more like an ordinary coach as each week passes.
Odds on, if Bellamy was coaching the Maroons he’d get a victory? QLD have the best players in the world in their team and they aim up every year as us poor Blues supporters have seen with our very own eyes. The point I’m trying to make is, Bellamy needs big name players or he’s not up to the task. Someone said he was an average player, never a truer word spoken! He was like a little sheep and he followed Bennett to the Broncos where he was his assistant. The players during that era were more than impressing and it made the pair of them look like geniuses! Bennett heads south, takes up a role with the Dragons, who at the time, had some talented players. A key player leaves and Bennett couldn’t get the Dragons the next step. It doesn’t matter how good some might think the coach is, if you haven’t got the playmakers then you don’t have a good team, it’s that simple. Cam Smith, International player of the year and deservedly so. It pains me to say it but he has got to be the most intelligent player I’ve watched and I’ve been watching league since I was 10, I’m now 47. Lewis and Langer were great but not up there with Smith. Bellamy needs players with natural ability or theres no way on this earth he can get the job done and have success.
I have to agree with you about Bellamy. I’ve no doubt that if he was the Maroons coach, we’d get our asses whipped every year until the likes of Slater, Cronk, Smith and Thurston retire! Even when they retired, QLD would have replacements who could fill the big boots, they seem to produce the best footy players in the world up there so Bellamy would have no trouble getting a series win every bloody year!
We’re no hope of attracting Bellamy to the club. His manager is only doing what he has to do to get him the best price and Melbourne has the resources to keep him. Also, I’ve noticed there isn’t any Cowboys supporters in here having a say and they are also chasing him. It’s starting to make us look desperate down here! Come to think of it, it’s is always the Sydney clubs chasing players and coaches. Maybe we should learn to pick and stick if we want success?
Will agree with you Carl. Our club needs to pick and stick. Storm have done it, Broncos have done it and that is what has bought them success. No point chopping and changing every time something goes wrong or isn’t going as planned. I am another who doesn’t want Bellamy at the club. He can shove his wrestling tactics where the sun isn’t shining! We don’t want to be the new grubs on the block! We don’t have a grubby culture at our club and I don’t want it to start now! We do have culture problems but wrestling isn’t at the top of the list.
@Mick. My understanding was from the reports that I heard was that if we would have offered Cronk 800K a season then he would have signed with us, but we only offered 650K. I think he signed with Melbourne for 600K a season.
Storm offered him less than we did but he didn’t want to really leave the Storm. I found his press conference this morning(took a bit to find), I watched it and he admitted that significant amounts of money were on offer from rival clubs but it wasn’t about the money, it was about a challenge and the Storm offered him the greatest challenge of all clubs. I’ll give credit where it’s due, he’s smart but most of all, he’s loyal. Contracted with them until 2016 and then hanging up his boots.
The Dragons are going down the same path as the Eels. While ever we have trouble and disharmony at with our administration, our players and coaches feel it. It just has a flow on affect. Clean up the board, starting with Doust and with any luck, we can turn things around. A coach of Bellamy’s calibre won’t come here because there is too much disharmony in the club. I’m with those that are saying we should pick and stick. So what we weren’t too crash hot this year, we can’t win every game we play. I’d love to see Daniel Anderson come to the club and coach. He’s got the smarts and would certainly bring some discipline with him. He’s the one we really need, not Bellamy.
Just found this article. It proves the rumours about Bellamy’s future are exactly that.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/boost-for-storm-as-coach-craig-bellamy-says-hes-going-nowhere/story-fnfiecjx-1226480519025
@Curtis. I’m with you buddy, let’s go for broke to secure Daniel Anderson. He got the Eels to a grand final, they were beaten by the Storm who were later caught for rorting the cap and then, the Eels sacked him. He’s a damn good coach and we could really benefit from his knowledge.
That’s a great idea. I had forgot about Anderson, but he would be a good choice for coach. But he’ll be still hampered by having Doust at the club