Staying with the Tigers
Wests Tigers centre Blake Ayshford has quashed rampant talk he is being pushed out of the club – as Penrith Panthers general manager Phil Gould insisted NSW centre Michael Jennings is going nowhere.
The truth behind Ayshford’s situation at the Tigers is that the South Sydney Rabbitohs approached him in August about a possible move to Redfern.
With the Tigers feeling the strain of salary cap pressure, Ayshford was granted permission to speak to the Rabbitohs – but that is as far as negotiations went.
Jennings, though, continues to be be linked to several NRL clubs – including the Parramatta Eels – but only the St George Illawarra Dragons have held genuine interest.
Gould has made it clear throughout this year he would not be prepared to pay out any of the Jennings deal if he was to be moved on.
While the Panthers have salary cap concerns, they are not so hamstrung they must release Jennings, who is the highest-paid player at the Panthers on a deal worth $600,000 for this season.
Read more at the Daily Telegraph
Saints are interested in a lot of players but the players either baulk at coming over or their managers won’t deal with Cyoung and co or saints won’t pay dollars because their that good, how embarrassing to read a player won’t deal with saints..!
You sound surprised. Why would any half decent player want to play for St Merge Illawarra Socks? A cut and paste team with a 13 year history and a token premiership. Big deal!
you are the biggest wanker god ever put breath into
its a broken record bluegirl give it a rest are you really that bored or just retarded?i think its the latter
F$%k saints. BENNETTS OURS!!!
Hopefully, these never ending rumours about Michael Jennings will stop now
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Unless someone offered him 700k a year BUT HIS STILL CONTRACTED FOR # MORE YEARS !!!!!!! So I cant see him going anywhere which is beyond good news.
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Im not a panthers fan so i don’t really care except maybe that i can’t stand Gould but my question is did’nt these rumours about Jennings (who is a good player)start with Gould telling him to find a new club and even now he has’nt said he wants him to stay only that he does’nt want to pay out a part of his contract.
Yeah when we had no 5/8. Gus wanted Jennings out to afford Thurston but Cootes a gun at 5/8 so Gus thought may aswell keep him now since Jennings is killing it since cootes at 5/8 instead of burns.
@Laney
Gus has stated on many, many occasions that he wants Jennings to stay.
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Panthers girl, Rumors you say try facts if not for his manager blocking the deal to saints he was gone..
@agrothedragon
Reread the article. It stated that Michael himself isn’t interested.
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Panthers girl Phi Gould could stand naked on top of Sydney Harbour bridge at night with a neon sign that jennings isn’t going anywhere and the Jennings leaving the Panthers rumor still wouldn’t go away.
Well that is good news.
He’s on his way out, Gould saying he will not pay out any money for a transfer is absolute rubbish. He is just trying to pay out as little as possible. If the right deal comes along he will snap it up.
I don’t actually understand what you Panthers fans see in MJ, he is overpaid, over rated and quite frankly the Panthers should drop him fast.
Bahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah and who do you support. Tigers with crappy over rated LAwrence who would be on 450k!!! Seriously biggest comment ever. Jennings is a superstar he always plays for NSW and the Allstars at times for Australia. Inglas is on 1 Million a year Thurston will be on 1.2 Million Id rather Jennings on half that. You didnt see his last few games after Origin. He got in close to career best form.
lol lawrence is on half of what jennings is on, should get your facts right matey
LOL and Jennings is three times better than Lawrence so tigers are paying him overs
Actually an inform lawrence does a sh!t on Jennings.
Lawrence is much better then Jennings.
@KorWOW and Titans Riley
If you say so.
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Actually I think they should let go off McKendry. Hes being paid overs hahahaha Lawrence better than Jennings? The problem is Panthers have a sh#t halfback but next year theres better players to give him the ball and when hes close to the line hes one of the most dangerous players theres a 60% chance if you get him near the line in open space there will be a Jennings try.
One of Panthers problems is their halfback. Get rid of him and McKendry. Then get Robson and Widdop.
That’ll make Panthers a top 5 side. Right now theyre a fringe top 8 side they wont make finals but massive improvers i predict 9-10th
I agree with you 100 percent. I think we will go great next season I think 5th with the likes of the Tigers Broncos Rabbits all struggling alittle next year.
Ummmm I’m sorry but I don’t see Brisbane struggling too much and Souths i don’t see how they would struggle unless Reynolds had second year sydrome. Panthers Girl, sometimes you have to face that your team is struggling and i don’t see Penrith improving too much next season. Come back next season and I am telling you that you won’t finish 5th.
@Easts
I believe that Harry Seijka will play halfback next year.
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We have lots of cash. I dont know why the media and almost everyone else think we are almost over the cap We sold Petro Waterhouse Purtell last year and brought Armit Ceraldo Mansour Weston Shackleton Galea all cheap bar probably Newton. We should have had money left over which we did have hence the reason we offered Gordon big money to stay which he didnt want to. Lewis was on 450k and burns would have been on 300k plus we dumped Earl Seluini and one of our bench players went to England. So we should have 500k left from last year and 1.5 Million from this year roughly. So 2 Million
We should be fine. Manu on 400k Brown 300k Whare 250k Segyaro 300k Naquama 200k (Newcastle arestill paying him off like 50k a year for 2 more years of whatever) Roberts under 200k Latimore and Pangai 100k than all the younger guys on 80k so roughly thats abit under 2 Million. Why Sell Jennings when we could let go of all the dead wood in Smith Mckendry Ceraldo Armit Galea Daniela and Newton (who is off contact next year) Almost all these players are off contract next year so dont be surprised if they all go to other clubs.
Panthers have had historically stupid financial management, however i think you have inflated a few contracts there.
Its no secret that penrith will clean out big time at the end of the year 2013 and hopefully see a few contracted stars especially McKendry sold off.
One name I have to say it Elliot. I spoke to Burns one day around town and I asked why Penrith and he said the money. Elliot boosted Mckendry to 400k plus before he left can only imagin how close I am to the contratcs.
Manu 400k; Should be 350k
Brown 300k; Should be 250k
Whare 250k Should be 150k
Segeyaro 300k; Should be 200-250k
Naquama 200k; Should be 55-80k
Jennings 600k; Should be 400k
MeKendry 450k; Should be 150-200k
Shitty management, but I can’t speak for the Titans either…
Dave Taylor 500k; Should be 350k
Jamal Idris 500k; Should be 300k
Idris for 500K?Not trying to sound like a ass but seriously what the hell were they thinking when they signed him for that much!
Yeah I couldn’t believe it either, he had some great seasons with the Bulldogs, but now he’s not good at all and too fat, if he loses some weight then possibly a good prospect, till then, I don’t know…
taylor is much worse, wouldnt give him 200k.
@Titans Riley
Where have you got your figures from? You’ve got no idea about their salaries.
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I got it from the comment from the Panthers fan. If their sources are reliable (like all you panthers fans claim are) then I think that you’ve payed overs for all of those players.
I just dont think they would have paid that for segayaro and manu hopefully not quite that much.
Titans have a good squad but give long term contracts too easily.
Yes, for the Panthers sake I hope they didn’t either haha, but they could still have the same management philosophy as the Elliot regime… Ha ha. But seriously, only few clubs can sign players for cheap money and short contracts that are quality players because they have a winning culture i.e Brisbane, Manly, Melbourne etc.
So Jennings fan in your world every other club is over the cap and your quick to jump on that bandwagon. However when the media write your precious panthers have salary cap issues its not true because its your precious pussy panthers. Go to bed will you please
I honestly dont BARK about any other clubs salary bar the Bulldogs who had around 10 players off contract and resigned them all bar 4 but before all that you and other dog fans stated that you had 10 players off contrac twhich none should be resigned due to the salary cap and all bar maybe 2 or 3. You resigned Halatua Turner (many others I can look it up but CBF) and only hace stagg and some unknows that are yet to resign which they probably will.
Ive already named all your expensive players all i need to do know is say Tony Williams 600k Ear Biter 400k plus and Tolman was on lots as you were trying to offload him last year or the year b4 all have been on this site stating their contract value.
Jennings fan if it ever comes out that the panthers have broken the salary cap no matter how much I will enjoy throwing it up in your face about your precious panthers. So if you want to keep staying in your naïve little world that’s your choice but you better hope the walls don’t ever come crashing down around you
Pffff we let go of over 1.5 million worth of players last year and 1 million this year. As for the dogs use let go of like 1 million last year and 100k this year yet signed Williams Inu Perret and resigned and resigned everyone and also boosted all your younger guys contracts. Dont make sense to me.
O and Ear Biter you also signed this year. Next year you have signed Williams but surely you didnt have spare cash for him and others lying around, Next year if you dont win alot of your stars wont be around due to salary cap pressure. Morris Barber Reynolds Inu Eastwood Jackson and pain will all want massive pay increases. Inu is worth 400k and I would pay that for him so would any other club. His only on 250k at the dogs next year.
Like I said Jennings fan can’t wait for day if your precious panthers are found to be over the cap no matter the amount. Cause I will really enjoy throwing it up in your face. Just be careful the walls of your self righteous world don’t fall in around you. NEVER SAY NEVER
You can’t talk.That statement at the end screams your a bieleber.And little girls are not meant to be on this site XD
Panthers Territory sounds like your living in the same world as jennings Girl as it relates to your precious panthers. Like I said to Jennings girl I can’t wait for the day your precious Panthers are ever found to have broken the salary cap. Three little words just for you NEVER SAY NEVER
@Mathew – So…..Did you and your bffs eat the jb’s puke from the concert XD
Obviously you have the intellect of a peanut and that’s being disresctful to a peanut. Why don’t I show your recent post to a cop friend of mine and he can trace your user address. He can then tell me and I can look at starting defamation action.
WOAH WE’VE GOT A BAD ASS UP IN HERE!!!
oh please, every club bar the Rabbits and Bulldogs are over the cap.
lol both bulldogs and rabbits have a lot of money in their forward stocks, bulldogs also have barb, morris, etc. where as rabbits have go on a big contract. However I’m not accusing dogs of being over the salary cap, I would be very interested to see how much each player was getting paid.
Ocelot if you want to know how much players are being payed just ask Jennings girl she seems to have appointed herself the new NRL Salary Cap auditor, manages her precious panthers Salary cap and speaks as if she has the ear of Phil Gould.
She also has stated previously on this that she would have liked the panthers to sign Masoe from the roosters but there was no room under their cap and that she feels Newton is on 400.000 but then changed her story to her precious panthers have plenty of cash.
Not every club the Knights are not over the cap mate and we havent signed 1 player for more than a fifth of our cap like the Rabbits leaving less than 4 fifths between 24 players ….
Fuc* offf cun* rabbits and doggs have the highest reputation from the past for going overthe slarary cap , pffftttt
@Jennings Fan
If MJ is so great then why was he playing park footy last season. The only thing that got him back into 1st grade was sticky putting him in origin
His attitude towrds Cleary dont you read the papers or watch the news.
It was behavioral issues that he got dropped for. Jennings is a star player maybe not worth 650k but he is definitely an elite centre.
Absolute BS that origin was his only reason for a recall.
@Gus Gould is a Muppett, he was playing park footy for displinary reasons.
@Gus Gould is a Muppett
He played 1 game for Windsor last year, it was supposed to be 2 but it wasn’t and that was due to attitude.
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You do not know the salaries for all of the players, so why don’t you just stop with your dribble.
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Rather hav Lawrence over Jennings ne day
Yeah maybe if Lawrence ran harder and learnt to catch and possibly play second row. His the biggest center in the game but runs like a 60kg 5/8. He used to be alright but anyone would with benji putting you through gaps. Penrith had Burns at 5/8 hence the reason Jennings didnt score many tries or be as threatning. Coote moves into 5/8 and Jennings gets dangerous. YOu all wait next year Jennings will be on fire if he stays with us.
Man u can talk shit aye full stop .
Lawrence is broken goods now, he showed all the talent but injuries and inconsistent halves combos have led him to ruin. Its a shame he could have been an awesome blues centre.
Harrigan and raper just been sacked.. Russell smith is new boss lol
Jenning fan you just worry about your 650.000 Micheal Jennings and your precious panthers.Careful you don’t burst a blood vessel their buddy.
Doggies !
Damn right
Panthers Territory your a spineless piece of work aren’t you. And I don’t mean that as a compliment Its okay for you and jennings girl to voice your biased and unfounded accusations but when someone says something you don’t like because your brain can’t handle it you then go and spew the vile that you spewed at me. Make you feel like you’ve got a set little boy. But then again you having a set can’t be possible because if you and jennings girl did you wouldn’t hide behind those stupid and pathetic user names why don’t you and your muppet friend own what you write and put your real name to your posts. Spineless little boy
Look at yourself.Your having a spit at people on the internet.Seriously…
Panthers territory if someone posted what you posted about me and your cousins or nephews read it like my nephews did how would you react clever boy.
You proud of yourself did it makke you feel like something special. Your post turned slur about me had very little to do about football and you still posted.
makke?That’s not clever.
Panthers territory they read this site reguarly they do know how to use a computer and have the net. Your the one that wasn’t real smart by posting what you posted. Unlike you I have nothing to appologise for. Unlike you
All player contracts must be registered, therefore, each and every contract will be monitored by the Ian Schubert. With that in mind, I doubt that the Bulldogs nor the Panthers will be over the salary cap.
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Some thing wrong with tigers why on god green earth they sign lotti and matt Utai over beau Ryan and chris hieton
Great question, go the Sharks
Panthers suck go u sharks
@Super sharks
And so do the Sharks
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Lol sharks will never win a premiership.Then in 2020 they will be kicked out of the comp or will be merged with st george.Enjoy your overrated and aging buys cronulla XD
@Panthers Territory
Ditto.
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Panthers Territory your an idiot haha seriously just don’t bother commenting nothing you say has any substance. Your Matthews bitch by the way.
Panthers Territory your a trolling peanut why don’t you get a set and own what you right. But you won’t because its easy for you to hide behind a fake alias. Least I have the set to put my actual name to what I post.
Everything Penrith supporter on this site is a delusional peanut with zero rugby league knowledge especially panthers territory.
@Shark territory
And what makes you the expert on this matter
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panthers fan here some advice put james roberts at full back.
1.Moylan
2.Mansour
3.Jennings
4.Whare
5.Roberts
6.Coote
7.Siejka
8.Grant
9.Kingston
10.Manu
11.Brown
12-17.???
No one is over the cap but if anyone is its the bullscum but i dont think they r courtesy good management and Tv deal. Jennings shits over Lawrence and MJ will make you eat your words with a refurbished squad next year
@gosht dog
I think that Josh Mansour may start at fullback
and East thanks. 
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Central Coast Panther and Panthers Girl both being exceptions Sharks Territory
Why are us sharks brought into this argument. It’s not even remotely to do with us.
@penrith territory, there is a lot more chance that panthners will combine with another team. (check your finances)
I don’t think Panthers Territory is the deluded one. We know the Sharks broke away from the Dragons and have had zero success. We also know there will be rationalization of Sydney clubs in the future to make way for teams from Perth etc. Sharks will either come back to the fold or die out. They missed the boat if they wanted to stand alone-could have taken the money ($8 million I think it was) and become the Central Coast Sharks and been around for good. Too late now!
Yeh Cronulla should definently relocate to either the Central Coast, Adelaid or Perth. We want our juniors back and they want to come back to us.
St.George/ILLAWARRA might have ONE more premiership than the mighty sharks but after the approval of the development our financial future is secured. And besides cronulla may have struggled in the past but our club HAS stood on its own since our inception the same can not be said of St.George hence why you merged with ILLAWARRA.
I think with Gus at Penrith the Panthers will be around for along time. His turning the club into a good place like the Dragons. The Dragons are a great club and I have nothing against them. I only complain when the dogs sign big name players and dont release any of the 10 they had off contract bar 3 or so. Doesnt make sense to me at all.
Ladder for 2013
1. Storm
2. Dragons
3. Roosters
4. Manly
5. Panthers
6. Raiders
7. Dogs
8. Sharks
9. Rabbits
10. Broncos
11. Eels
12. Knights
13. Warriors
14. Titans
15. Tigers
16. Knights
Ladder for 2013
1. Storm
2. Dragons
3. Roosters
4. Manly
5. Panthers
6. Raiders
7. Dogs
8. Sharks
9. Rabbits
10. Broncos
11. Cowboys
12. Eels
13. Warriors
14. Titans
15. Tigers
16. Knights
As yiu can see in my first one I wrote Knights twice my bad.
U hav no idea Jennings fan .
You’re an idiot.
Predicting the ladder is the hardest thing for anyone to do.
You don’t know what could happen, but certainly the Panthers making the 8…
HAHAHHAHAHHA
i know right lol
1.Storm
2.Dogs
3.Rabbits
4.Cowboys
5.Raiders
6.Panthers
7.Knights
8.Sharks
9.Roosters
10.Broncos
11.Manly
12.Titans
13.Dragons
14.Eels
15.Warriors
16.Tigers
Actually make penrith 7th and make knights 6th.IDK anything can happen from now to round 26 next year.
no make broncos 6th and penrith 10th, u dreamers lol
You have just proven my theory that Penrith fans have no f****** idea in relation to rugby league.
That lol the ladder will be close to
1. Storm
2. Dogs
3. Sharks
4. Rabbits
5. Knights
6. Titans
7. Manly
8. Tigers
9. Cowboys
10. Tigers
11. Roosters
12. Panthers
13. Raiders
14. Eels
15. Broncos (will strugle)
16. Saints
You’ve got the Tigers twice dude.
My 2 cents
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Jennings Fan
Posted October 27, 2012 at 7:53 PM
IMHO
The Ladder for 2013 in no particular order in any category.
Top 4 from:
Storm
Dogs
Sharks
Cowboys
Then:
Raiders
Souths
Manly
The Maybe’s:
Knights
Roosters
Dragons
Broncos
Titans
The Strugglers:
Panthers
Eels
Warriors
Tigers
i noticed but i couldn’t be f*** fixing it lol i thought no one would notice. I would agree with you but tigers wont be strugglers, we have a great coach and some great players.
Jennings fan even if the dogs had released eight of the ten players that were off contract you would still bitch about the dogs because obviously you don’t like them that’s your choice.
Until the dogs are found to be over the salary cap by the ARLC and the salary cap auditor not you like all clubs including your precious panthers they are entitled to re-sign and sign players.
Also try not to forget that in the time Des and Crusher were at Manly the sea eagles were never found to be over their salary cap and up until now managed to keep all their big name stars.
Personally I would have liked to have seen them retain from memory only kasiano, Taupau, Morris, Barba and Ennis.
In the meantime you should worry about wether or not your precious panthers are never found to be over the salary cap.
Furthermore Jennings fan I think you will find that the dogs ended up releasing more than three from their current roster at the end of this year not that those players released would appease you would it.
Also you squeal like doug beatty in deliverance about the size of T Rex’s contract, the dogs signing Graham for 425.000 as well as them adding Perrett and Inu mid season due to injuries but you don’t seem to have a problem with Jennings 600.000k deal. Ever stop and think that maybe the dogs don’t always spend their full cap and that maybe they still have considerable cash remaining from not only SBW’s contract as well those players over the last two maybe three years including Ben Hannant’s and Brett Kimmorley’s contracts
Another club that could have secured their future on the Central Coast is Souths. Their fans take a relatively short ride from their home base at Redfern straight to the stadium, celebrate their wins next door at the club and take a 2 second walk back to the train station. And yet they choose to play at the Olympic stadium.
Oh well, they’re doing better then most clubs in the NRL
Clover Moore made sure that Souths couldn’t play at Redfern anymore. There is only 7000 capacity.
i cant wait till the sharks smack stmerge’s backside lol
olympic stadium was about $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Jennings fans your gotta be kidding, Tigers to finish 2nd last, take a look at the Tigers roster, craps of the panthers team. Yes we under achieved this yr, but the team will be hungry next yr! Jennings is a great player, no one is doubting that….
Jennings fan your gotta be kidding, Tigers to finish 2nd last, take a look at the Tigers roster, S* on the panthers team. Yes we under achieved this yr, but the team will be hungry next yr! Jennings is a great player, no one is doubting that….
@Tiger 111
Please, refer to my response to Eye of the Tiger.
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Jennings fan your gotta be kidding, Tigers to finish 2nd last, take a look at the Tigers roster, destroys the panthers team. Yes we under achieved this yr, but the team will be hungry next yr! Jennings is a great player, no one is doubting that….
@Eye of the Tiger
The Tigers may very well end up at the bottom of the table, with a new coach and the reported bad attitude of the players.
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The Panthers have a very strong roster for next year. There will be positional changes for the team, therefore the squad is over all stronger and better.
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Hopefully the Panthers will give the Tigers a touch up next year.
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“Strong roster” is very debatable.
Not strong.Just a big leap of improvement from this year.Wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t make the 8 next year.
Pretty strong roster. Lots of depth. Our halves alone have Sejika Austin Walsh Coote. Pretty solid back ups in the halves.
Weak roster. Get a proper fullback and halfback.
Jennings is overrated.
And which team do you go for?
Storm??? Cooper is over rated. Pops in and kicks once in a while. He can only kick 1 pointers
My 2013 Prediction: top 4
1. Storm
2. Manly
3. Dogs
4. Souths
I always do this but I am soooo bored so here it is. Panthers 2013 side.
1. Naiquma
2. Mansour
3. Jennings
4. Whare
5. Roberts
6. Coote
7. Walsh
8. Shackleton
9. Kingston
10. Grant
11. Manu
12. M Robinson
13. Brown
14. Segyaro
15. Plum
16. Docker
17. Austin/Newton
I can see Walsh and Coote being the most improved halves in the comp next year with Barrett being our new halves coach the two will be running the ball alot more. Walsh is at his best when he runs.
Docker is soild and runs flat out and can hit hard which we need off the bench. Austin could possibly start at lock and brown onto the bench.
Newton is good but not great. Although off the bench he could bring on some offloads with Segyaro coming on with him could be a sparky little combo.
Plum tightens up our defence and thats why I like him off the bench. Id swap him for shackleton or Grant early.
I dumped Mckendry as I want him gone. If his there you would have to start him since he gets payed lots. So Shackleton would be dropped from the side as i think this bench I have would bring lots into the game say 25 minutes into the first half.
Austin needs to be in the side somewhere even if he misses every few games depending on what teams we play.
Penrith will be an offloading team next year rather than a hard running team. We have smaller players in our side next year with the likes of Roberts Brown Segyaro Coote Walsh Whare all abit smaller than the players they will be marking. SO size and running over people shouldnt be our game plan. It should be forwards running in pairs with a smaller guy tagging along most of the time. Should be passing the ball more early to Jennings and Manu on the edges. Mansour is our key to success next year. His like Perrett for the dogs.
Walsh will not be in the side.Siejka will be.
@Panthers Territory
I hope that you are right on the one.
Panthers are wooden spoon favourites for a reason they are s***
LOL whatever the Cronulla Tiger Sharks that feed off old panthers
We will have Garderner as our fullback since he wont be in your team with the new players you got
You are really embarrasing.Just please be quiet.If people p*** you off don’t listen to them.Especially since they can’t talk because they never have and never will win a premiership.Not trying to be rude jennings fan it’s just sometimes there are idiots who are not worth fighting.
Hey Panthers Territory since you bought it up what premiership did you win I’m dying to find out also the idiots who are not worth fighting in your mind these idiots as you called then wouldn’t happen to be idiots because they don’t happen to share the unbelievable and utterly ridiculos biased views you Panthers Girl and Jennings fan espouse on this forum any chance you three get regarding your precious Panthers would they.
As far as the claim made by I think Jennings fan that Cronk is overrated once again Jennings fan due to his biased rants has forgotten that Cronk is an Australian, Queensland and premiership winning half back
So your telling me a coach signs a player on a 3 year deal and doesnt play him????? Your kidding yourself. Sejika is not ready yet. He had a crack and did nothing in the games he played.
@Jennings Fan
Harry has done more in his 4 games than what Luke has ever done.
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With an off-season i can imagine him being a lot stronger.I remeber barba was really crap in 1st grade then with a off-season he became freakish.
I would like to see Austin at halfback instead of Sejika. Austin would need to drop kgs and get back to around 85 to 90 kgs. He will probably bulk up as all the Panthers do during the off season. Like to see Matty Robinson put on somekgs to get around the 100 kg mark
@Jennings Fan
Maybe you are right about that one =D and Harry could be used as a utility. =D,
I think that the 2013 ladder might end up like this.
1) Storm
2) Dogs
3) Sharks
4) Cowboys
5) Rabbitohs
6) Manly
7) Knights
8) Broncos
9) Titans
10) Raiders
11) Warriors
12) Dragons
13) Eels
14) Tigers
15) Roosters
16) Panthers
Unbiased, even as a Tigers supporter I think you have picked a pretty good 16 in the positions they may finish next year. Had Sheens stayed with the tigers….we may have done worse than 14th. With Potter I think we may be a more cohesive side next year, but it would be a hard ask to see Tigers finishing inside the 8….I’d be happy just to see the side put in more competative performances than they did this year and play with a bit more heart.